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1.2% of Americans will be shot dead within their lifetime

Re: 1.2% of Americans will be shot dead within their lifetim

Postby Medius » Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:37 pm

Doesn't seem right. Put the current total and assume it will remain static (which isn't true at all as it has been declining), remove suicides, as that isn't you "being shot dead" but rather you "shooting yourself dead" and you get about 10k deaths a year. Lets round it up to 15k. Assume 300 million people in America also won't change. That puts you at .005%. Now lets assume humans live inordinately long lifespans of 100 years. .5%

So half a percentage of americans, assuming a higher than normal gun death rate that doesn't decline, in a population that doesn't increase, and an extremely long life span will be killed by guns. Now, that is just removing suicide, so it does also include people being shot dead by the police for legitimate reasons, which should really be removed, but I don't have statistics for that handy.

So realistically, it is under one half of one percent. And your chances of being in that group are dramatically lower if you aren't a criminal, don't hunt, and don't cheat on your spouse.
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Re: 1.2% of Americans will be shot dead within their lifetim

Postby Dylan » Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:48 pm

I have others from my youth that didn't involve cops, soldiers or instructors. Lots of drunk skeet shooting off a nearby mountain, lots of displaying guns at parties with alcohol, lots of shooting at trees in populated areas, etc etc.

It's to be expected when any idiot who has managed to survive to 18 (or 21) without a serious offense can purchase as many guns and as much ammo as they desire. There is literally almost no standard for who can own a gun (including weapons that give 100 lb teenagers the ability to kill dozens of people).

It's madness. Sheer insanity.
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Re: 1.2% of Americans will be shot dead within their lifetim

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Re: 1.2% of Americans will be shot dead within their lifetim

Postby Dylan » Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:52 pm

Sounds lime you do since you know a few people who fired a bullet accidentally. Not sure if you knew this, but bullets can go pretty far and kill people who aren't in sight. So even if you aren't pointing at a person you can see, you're still an idiot for firing a projectile designed to kill accidentally and you avoided causing harm to others only by luck, not prudence.

So you do know irresponsible gunowners. It's just that the standard of what's responsible is hilariously low among gun owners apparently.
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Re: 1.2% of Americans will be shot dead within their lifetim

Postby Dylan » Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:03 pm

Haven't seen oblivion, doesn't look very good.

I agree accidental discharges are more likely not to hit someone than to hit someone. So? It's still irresponsible behavior and a mark against that gun owner.

These are weapons. They kill. You guys don't seem to get that when you downplay accidents. It just highlights to me that gunowners don't take their respinsibility seriously.
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Re: 1.2% of Americans will be shot dead within their lifetim

Postby Martin Luther King » Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:03 pm

I'm really surprised none of you knew that redneck from high school who was the first one to turn 18, buy a gun at Walmart, and then bring it to a house party to shoot stuff and show off. I thought every high school had that kid. I've never seen anything bad happen personally but my friends told me of a party where a kid accidentally shot a neighbors dog taking pot shots at a fence during a party.

But it isn't like someone get killed every day from the irrisponsible use of firearms.

Oh wait, someone does. Seems to refute these absurd arguments where you guys pretend every gun owner you know is responsible.
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