Gays in Boy Scouts

[The Dharma Bum]

Yossarian is right. It's a indoctrination into a set of national ideals. The kids wear uniforms, march around with flags, get medals, and it ties this indoctrination into nationalistic fervor into the pre-dominate judeo-christian culture. It's become somewhat more PC and about camping, conservation etc since the 60s and 70s but there is no doubt that it's basis is a childhood introduction into the rigors of national military service.

It's a relic of a bygone era, the 20th century, like Hitler Youth or the Young Pioneers. I'd be surprised if many kids outside of the remnants of WASP culture participate. Maybe a few urban charity cases that get some kind of funding from it or something.

[The Dharma Bum]

BTW I did a little scouting too, it was weird and I was glad to stop when I did. It just didn't seem like a natural social interaction to me, but then I don't like most types of public spectacle or participation in large organizations etc.

They are always agenda driven BS at the core.

[PoS]

Baden-Powell created the scout movement to prepare boys for the military, thats why in addition to survival and camping skills they teach values of obedience and such. There has been rumors that he was gay too.

[JDHURF]

I totally disagree that the Boy Scouts indoctrinates boys into nationalist, religious ideologies. I went from a tiger cub up to only needing to complete an Eagle Scout project to become an Eagle Scout and look how I turned out. I don't recall Christianity having the least thing to do with the Boy Scouts. I can remember going to a religious horse-riding camp which was awesome, but I couldn't stand when they tried to open their Bibles and preach about Jesus. It just bored the hell out of me and it was even more of the liberal, Jesus is love preaching than the [insert whatever you want here] is of the devil, crazy shit. I don't recall any such thing ever happening in the Scouts. I loved the Scouts. It was fun as hell and I learned a lot of important lessons and skills that I still hold to today.

Also, if the Scouts want to remain at all relevant they will have to accept gay people, period.

[exploited]

I am also an almost-Eagle-Scout, I don't remember it being religious at all, other than than some of our meetings were in a Church Basement.

[JDHURF]

The way the Boy Scouts is organized it probably really depends upon who is leading it locally. It's not some rigid hierarchy.

[PoS]

[uebermann]

All of our scout meetings were at church and I don't remember God ever coming up or as the discussion of any topic. Ever.

[JDHURF]

[JDHURF]