Re: Attempts to Roll Back Marriage Equality since November 8
Posted:
Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:05 pmby exploited
So, in your learned opinion, it is immoral for people who have moral opinions that disagree with your own to advocate their morality within the confines of the law?
I see.
I was under the impression that discussion, collaboration, speaking openly and honestly about your interests, etc., was exactly what was required to overcome age-old prejudices like this one. I see now that it is better for people to not express their views peacefully, with deference to the law, but instead to feel alienated from their democratic institutions. For their own good of course.
Re: Attempts to Roll Back Marriage Equality since November 8
Posted:
Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:35 pmby John Galt
marriage is not about love, it's about securing alliances and trueborn sons. love having anything to do with marriage is a novel concept, although, admittedly, not nearly as novel as the idea of a gay marriage, which turns the whole thing on its head.
600 days ago, before the supreme court ruling (which was wrong simply because marriage is no right*) anyone could marry anyone they want, outside of blood relations. marriage as a legal construct only makes sense for the government to engage in if they are worried about the welfare of children that accidentally come along. the rigorous bonds of matrimony are made so that you are forced to support your progeny. so it makes sense that only people who could conceivably conceive be given license, and, because of things like ADA we can't discriminate against those people who are barren or impotent or whatever reason they can't have kids.
i'd like to point out you're doing exactly what exploited said you were doing by the way.
*the right to contract is a right, one of which the supreme court has reversed itself and said was no right in the time of the New Deal. the right to contract means that you as a person, have a right to enter into contracts with other people. it does follow that you should be able to enter into a contract with however many people of whatever sex you want, and i agree, you should. however, in this country marriage is illegal, everywhere, for everyone. only certain people are given license (which is permission to do an illegal act) by the government to commence in their "marriage". it is immoral for the government to be doing these things. this is also why minimum wage is grossly immoral. but to back why marriage isn't a right, you cannot have a right to do something illegal. it's nonsense