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Re: the damn statues

Postby Saz » Sat Aug 19, 2017 5:45 pm

DON'T BE A TOUGH GUY. DON'T BE A FOOL! I WILL CALL YOU LATER.
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Re: the damn statues

Postby exploited » Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:19 pm

The Constitution didn't endure. The Articles of Confederation failed right off the hop, and the Constitution itself failed in just a hundred years. Add in the fact that separation of powers has been an abysmal failure; that the electoral college system is f**k stupid and always has been; and that the only way for the federal government to regulate most of the modern economy was through a laughable court decision that expanded the commerce clause to be basically meaninglessness... Well, let's just say it isn't looking good. It took two SC decisions over twenty years just to make it so the government could make child labor illegal :)) The system of government created is vastly inferior to any parliamentary system in the Western world.

Beyond that, in regards to slavery, WWI, WWII, etc. it really is impossible to say how it all would have turned out. I can think of a dozen different scenarios, as I'm sure you can. The greater point is that you probably could have achieved all the same things without murdering your countrymen. Slavery was abolished sooner and with less bloodshed literally everywhere else, and the Founding Fathers were the ones responsible for the widespread belief that treason and violent rebellion is some sort of moral democratic duty (the tree of liberty etc). It is no wonder that things got so messed up - the Founding Fathers spread a creed of violent, antisocial individuality. Even today your national mythos are a poison to the civic body.

Dumb radicals who spazzed over nothing.
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Re: the damn statues

Postby John Galt » Sun Aug 20, 2017 6:26 am

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Re: the damn statues

Postby Spider » Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:41 am

I'm fine with moving past Columbus. The guy was trash.
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Re: the damn statues

Postby John Galt » Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:45 pm

The man discovered the new world. Yeah he didn't know it really and yeah he was a shitty person when he was a governor but that doesn't erase the achievement or his importance
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Re: the damn statues

Postby The Comrade » Sun Aug 20, 2017 9:43 pm

vikings discovered it centuries before him.

plus the guy was a f**k idiot who thought the earth was small and it would take him a few days to sail to india by going west.he doesn't deserve recognition.

what we should have is a day dedicated to amerigo vespucci. you know, the guy we're named after and the one who showed the americas weren't east asia.
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Re: the damn statues

Postby The Comrade » Sun Aug 20, 2017 9:46 pm

oh also he wasn't a genocidal maniac as far as i know.
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Re: the damn statues

Postby Gremlin » Mon Aug 21, 2017 12:26 pm

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Re: the damn statues

Postby spacemonkey » Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:35 am

People rattled that much by inanimate objects must be really rattled by actual reality.
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