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Ruling on posts/threads condemning an entire demographic

Postby Precocity » Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:00 pm

After discussion with uebermann we have come to the following agreement.

Our goal going forward is to attempt to allow unrestrained discussion of demographics as much as possible but we will not tolerate bashing of an entire demographic. Discussion along the lines of fixing or what the problem was, but not things like "boomers will be the death of us all" , "all boomers suck" , etc. Basically we will treat it like if it were a racial bash. If we can't keep the threads from turning into bashfests, then we will re-evaluate our position. We hope that we don't have to go that route.

We will attempt to allow a lot of leeway in regards to individual posts because we understand that many members use slang or terms that others find offensive. However, as stated above, if the use of them turns the thread into a bashfest, we will take whatever action is necessary to stop it.

What I've just said is our policy going forward. Do not attempt to push it to the limits to test our policy or that policy may change.

Now feel free to discuss what I just posted and ask questions or give examples for clarification in this thread. The better informed you are here, the less problems we will have in the other forums.
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Re: Ruling on posts/threads condemning an entire demographic

Postby OGPhilly » Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:02 pm

Ok, so for clarification, a lot of tension came from previous comments I've made that Boomers are a very narcissistic generation. Obviously that doesn't mean it applies to every individual, but I'm describing how I see the character of the generation as a whole. It would be like saying millennials are very computer literate. No one would argue with that statement yet I'm sure you cold find examples of millennials who aren't good with technology every once in a while. So is what I said ok?
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Re: Ruling on posts/threads condemning an entire demographic

Postby Precocity » Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:04 pm

Again, look at what I said and based on what I said, does your example fit that criteria?
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Re: Ruling on posts/threads condemning an entire demographic

Postby OGPhilly » Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:38 pm

I think it falls within what's allowed as it first of all was said to make a larger point about the relationships between generations in society not just as some kind and insult and second was obviously not intended to apply to every single boomer.
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Re: Ruling on posts/threads condemning an entire demographic

Postby Precocity » Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:55 pm

Here's the point. You explained what you said but you didn't have to because it was apparent in your post. Also, it's doubtful your post would lead into a bashfest either based on what I read. While there may always be exceptions (because some people take offense to anything), in general your post does not violate the rules.
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Re: Ruling on posts/threads condemning an entire demographic

Postby lnrw » Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:44 am

Philly wrote:Ok, so for clarification, a lot of tension came from previous comments I've made that Boomers are a very narcissistic generation. Obviously that doesn't mean it applies to every individual, but I'm describing how I see the character of the generation as a whole. It would be like saying millennials are very computer literate. No one would argue with that statement yet I'm sure you cold find examples of millennials who aren't good with technology every once in a while. So is what I said ok?


Oh yes, being very computer literate is saying exactly the same thing as your insult. I see it all now.
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Re: Ruling on posts/threads condemning an entire demographic

Postby OGPhilly » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:05 am

An admin says its kosher. Cry more lnrw, you're on a roll today

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Re: Ruling on posts/threads condemning an entire demographic

Postby lnrw » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:13 am

Thanks for showing us your high school picture.
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Re: Ruling on posts/threads condemning an entire demographic

Postby PoS » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:17 am

Sonned. =))
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Re: Ruling on posts/threads condemning an entire demographic

Postby Precocity » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:46 am

lnrw wrote:
Philly wrote:Ok, so for clarification, a lot of tension came from previous comments I've made that Boomers are a very narcissistic generation. Obviously that doesn't mean it applies to every individual, but I'm describing how I see the character of the generation as a whole. It would be like saying millennials are very computer literate. No one would argue with that statement yet I'm sure you cold find examples of millennials who aren't good with technology every once in a while. So is what I said ok?


Oh yes, being very computer literate is saying exactly the same thing as your insult. I see it all now.


If someone starts a thread similar to Philly's example, it's easy for a boomer to post a link to an op-ed claiming that millenials are narcissistic. Now we step into the grey area that the thread turns into a bashfest.

I'll use B for boomers and M for millenials.

M: (provides link from a millenial) "Boomers are narcissistic" and goes on to elaborate the merits of the article. However (as your example Philly) they try to clarify it doesn't apply to all boomers but only boomers as a generation.

B: (provides link from a boomer as a follow-up post) "Millenials are narcissistic" and goes on to elaborate the merits of the article. However they also try to clarify it doesn't apply to all millenials but only millenials as a generation.

M and B start arguing back and forth and it goes downhill from there. Pretty soon, by the 3rd, 4th or 5th page it is nothing but a bashfest where each side is purely on the defensive (their side) and the counter attacks (against the other side).

Eventually a mod/admin locks the thread.

See where I am going here?

TBH, I seriously doubt any thread that encompasses an entire demographic (a generation) but giving an attempt to establish it isn't based on individuals will lead to constructive civil debate. But we decided to go forward and watch and see.

Another example that I've seen in the past (not necessarily on our site) is the argument about black crime and almost every time it turns into a bashfest with constant accusations of racism. I don't need to show you examples, it happens all the time.

Both uebermann and I realize it's a tricky situation to allow threads/posts discussing an entire demographic but we decided to allow it to happen as long as it doesn't go downhill fast. It's up to all of you to live up to our expectations and continue to have the freedom on here to do so.
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