Voter apathy

[spacemonkey]

If the vote of "we the people" actually counted, maybe more would take it
serious. Now, its all about delegates, super delegates, and the Electorial College. Basically by a few thousand that can be bribed to do the masters bidding. It all needs to be scrapped and relegated to the museum of political history.

[Spider]

[Philly]

I don't want to hear that "our votes don't count" unless you're claiming that the numbers are intentionally fudged to ensure a certain candidate gets the most when it's all tallied up.

As far as delegates, the electoral college, etc. Yeah, it's not a 1 for 1 democracy. But that doesn't mean that our votes don't count. It means some votes in some places count more than other votes in other places. It creates difficulties and it's not pure democracy (which is by design, since the founding of the US), but your vote still counts.

Also, this election is full of idiots who seem to think that if your candidate loses, then your vote doesn't count. Before the NY primary I saw them doing a bunch of man-on-the-street interviews and one guy said "I prefer Sanders, but I'm going to vote for Hillary because I think she's going to win and I want my vote to count". f**k moron.

[IndependentProfessor]

Some people are more equal than others. Some votes count more than others. It's that way in every bicameral state Legislature. It's that way in Congress. It's that way in the Executive branch. It's that way at the UN.

[Spider]

[spacemonkey]

[Philly]

They were created to prevent "mob rule" which many founders were very afraid of. Agree or disagree, but if you like true democracy don't romanticize the founders' purpose in creating the EC.

[spacemonkey]

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[Philly]

They could have made it a lot more democratic, but they didn't want to.