This looks promising!
Re: This looks promising!
by Southern Dad » Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:43 pm
Monopoly Utilities don't have to compete. Hence the word monopoly. Your entire argument goes down the drain when you decide to make them a utility and all work on innovation just ceases. They no longer need to compete because they will all be regulated and regulated the same. If they want a price increase they have to get it voted on by the utility commission, so why bother improving the product? Like I said, no competition.
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Re: This looks promising!
by Spider » Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:49 pm
Oh, and the whole argument about having a "choice" of ISP's is completely wrong, because the competition doesn't provide the same service. At all.
When it comes to TV providers you have legitimate choice. Cable, Dish, DirectTV, all offer almost exactly the same service for almost exactly the same price. THAT is a choice. People switch between them constantly just to enjoy the promotions. That is a healthy competitive atmosphere. Cable and Dish however, DO NOT offer the same service at the same price when it comes to internet access. Not even remotely close.
You can tell because almost nobody is willing to switch from Comcast for example for internet access, even when they've got a dish on their roof. The "choice" is nonsensical. The "competition" between the two purely theoretical.
I've moved recently, and in my new location we have a single ISP. And because of that, they can charge $90 per month for the shittiest 4Mbps DSL I've ever experience. Its a monopoly, pure and simple. I'll probably wind up paying over a hundred soon just because the 4 meg speed is making me want to pull my hair out already.
When it comes to TV providers you have legitimate choice. Cable, Dish, DirectTV, all offer almost exactly the same service for almost exactly the same price. THAT is a choice. People switch between them constantly just to enjoy the promotions. That is a healthy competitive atmosphere. Cable and Dish however, DO NOT offer the same service at the same price when it comes to internet access. Not even remotely close.
You can tell because almost nobody is willing to switch from Comcast for example for internet access, even when they've got a dish on their roof. The "choice" is nonsensical. The "competition" between the two purely theoretical.
I've moved recently, and in my new location we have a single ISP. And because of that, they can charge $90 per month for the shittiest 4Mbps DSL I've ever experience. Its a monopoly, pure and simple. I'll probably wind up paying over a hundred soon just because the 4 meg speed is making me want to pull my hair out already.
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Re: This looks promising!
by Spider » Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:50 pm
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Re: This looks promising!
by Spider » Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:53 pm
It IS DSL. And no, there is no 4G covereage here. Not that its an option, with such ridiculous bandwidth caps. I'd be throttled after the first day on wireless.
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Re: This looks promising!
by eric » Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:55 pm
It's funny because in this instance regulation actually makes the market more free, and opens up competition.
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Re: This looks promising!
by Southern Dad » Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:16 pm
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Re: This looks promising!
by The Comrade » Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:22 pm
home phones are a negligible cost because landlines are a dying and obsolete service.
and why do you keep bringing up old time telecoms? you are aware the government came in about 30 years ago and smashed them to pieces, right?
and why do you keep bringing up old time telecoms? you are aware the government came in about 30 years ago and smashed them to pieces, right?
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