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thankfully robots don't need unions and soon we can stop talking about this issue

also of course they'll claim that shit. they're bad workers wanting to get more money for doing less work and they got fired for not doing their job, of course they'll claim otherwise. i mean we're all self serving, but come on.

and haven't you ever seen a bell curve? 5% failures, 20% danger of being failures, 50% adequate, 20% danger of being adequate, 5% performing above standard. they only fired 2%

I stand with musk. It’s odd but I actually don’t think he cares about the money beyond it allowing him to further pursue his actual goals. If firing 2% of his workforce (or firing anyone attempting to unionise) is what it takes to get us to mars or to have a truly electric auto industry, then fire away. Industries are ruined when they are captured for the workers instead of their intended purpose - look at teachers, they act as if the point of school is to employ them instead of to educate children. f**k off.

Holy shit have you seen this guys double ex wife?

Mother of god. She looks absolutely freaky.

I really don't like the "double-dipping" of public unions, as Saz puts it. Public unions blow, but since the rich have been waging unceasing class warfare for forty years, they are a necessary evil and one of the main institutions preventing the total destruction of the middle class.

It is extremely short-sighted to support anti-union activities, particularly since most of the criticism thrown at unions is ideological horseshit concocted by the rich to make everyone else look down on themselves. "Unions destroyed the auto industry." lol, no, the corporations destroyed the industry by putting out abject garbage for years, refusing to innovate, and spending all their time rent-seeking instead of improving their products. The unions and the taxpayers bent over backwards to keep this from happening, but corporate made one disastrous decision after another, and got absolutely crushed by corporations who actually listened to their employees and made massive improvements to quality as a result (see Japanese automakers).

All that said, Musk is a God and is not obliged to play by the same rules as us mere mortals. Even I will forgive a bit of union busting if it means getting to Mars.

We use things made by child labor at the same time we spew our high moral standards as we set on our high horse named Pompus. But unions are bad? lol.