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Re: The Gender Gap

Postby exploited » Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:22 pm

ToddStarnes wrote:It's fascinating. He's wrong on a lot of stuff but the insights on the negative effects of industrialization and rapid technological progress are incredibly prescient.


When he got into surrogate activities, it really grabbed me. All too common to see people substitute real goals for things that are merely pleasurable to them. And yes, this is a method of social control. I'm guilty of it myself.

His primary problem was his inability to understand that he was projecting really, really hard. His own activities were really nothing more than surrogate activities in the end. It is impossible for a lone actor to spark a revolution through bombing random IT workers or scientists. He was smart enough to evade capture for years, but not smart enough to realize the limitations of antisocial behaviour. Throughout the manifesto he repeatedly emphasizes the importance of small groups, but even in his acts, he was totally alone.

Too bad, because I think if he had that ability, and he really dedicated himself to his political philosophy, he could have written something truly compelling and truly long-lasting. He may even have sparked a neoluddite movement worthy of the name.
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Re: The Gender Gap

Postby ToddStarnes » Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:42 pm

I don't think we have credible and cogent ideology-based revolutions anymore really.....
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Re: The Gender Gap

Postby Philly » Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:47 pm

Saz wrote:
ToddStarnes wrote:Everything white people say or do is racist now. But black people can openly advocate for segregation and call all white people evil and it's NBD.

Remember MTV's ad saying how white men f**k everything up in 2016? Imagine an ad pointing out how many die at the hands of black people and the drain on resources from supporting and imprisoning black people and see how that plays lmao


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Dylan is one step away from being one of those "You turn on the radio and those black rappers are always saying that word, but I say it and everyone freaks out! Why the double standard?!" fox news grandpas
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Re: The Gender Gap

Postby The Comrade » Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:45 pm

well he's got the preying on young girls thing down so yeah he's pretty close
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Re: The Gender Gap

Postby exploited » Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:08 am

ToddStarnes wrote:I don't think we have credible and cogent ideology-based revolutions anymore really.....


Agreed. At most Ted K. was a B-lister, he isn't inspiring revolutions. But a decent weirdo anti-tech movement would have been within his grasp had he decided not to murder people.
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Re: The Gender Gap

Postby ToddStarnes » Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:01 am

Philly wrote:
Saz wrote:
ToddStarnes wrote:Everything white people say or do is racist now. But black people can openly advocate for segregation and call all white people evil and it's NBD.

Remember MTV's ad saying how white men f**k everything up in 2016? Imagine an ad pointing out how many die at the hands of black people and the drain on resources from supporting and imprisoning black people and see how that plays lmao


prole viewpoint

Dylan is one step away from being one of those "You turn on the radio and those black rappers are always saying that word, but I say it and everyone freaks out! Why the double standard?!" fox news grandpas


For somebody who so loftily pontificated on the need to listen to Trump supporters, you're rather quick to dismiss my fair criticism (a criticism which unifies Trump supporters more than any other).

I guess the key here is whatever avenue leads Philly to the strongest sense of smugness and self satisfaction is the avenue to be chosen.
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Re: The Gender Gap

Postby Philly » Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:57 am

My premise is not to "listen to Trump supporters" so much as to understand that the Democratic Party has failed to give them a tangible and apparent material reason to support Democratic candidates. I've never claimed they have noble and worthwhile ideas about race.
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Re: The Gender Gap

Postby ToddStarnes » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:30 am

But you dismiss real concerns from whites that it is increasingly socially acceptable to shit on them and openly favor other racial groups over whites. Not all that consistent, as SJWs' insistence that the white man is the devil is a key issue here.
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Re: The Gender Gap

Postby The Comrade » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:40 am

honestly a man of your age and pedigree using the term SJW is just embarrassing.

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Re: The Gender Gap

Postby Saz » Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:34 am

ToddStarnes wrote:But you dismiss real concerns from whites that it is increasingly socially acceptable to shit on them and openly favor other racial groups over whites. Not all that consistent, as SJWs' insistence that the white man is the devil is a key issue here.


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