The Leaker is.......

[Indy]

Just seen parts of it but I get the idea.

Here's the irony of all this: people told us that AQ attacked us because they hate our freedoms and liberties (which BTW was never accurate).

In fact, it's our own gov't that used AQ to slice into those freedoms and liberties (previously it was and still is the War on Drugs).

I know that sounds all Alex Jones but is it not true?

[Professor]

Please note that this post IS in line with my previously posted views - that I don't support one man passing judgment on a system and unilaterally taking illegal actions to remedy those supposed injustices. However, just because I disagree with how the information about the program was exposed, doesn't mean that I agree with the program.

What are the chances that any American will be killed/directly affected by a terrorist attack? If 3000 people were killed in 9/11, let's say that another 17,000 were directly affected (being a family member of that person - 2 parents, wife and 2.5 children). That's 20,000 people. Given that AlQ has been trying this stuff for 20 years now, let's assume that, worst case scenario (something happens tomorrow), in a person's lifetime, that 20,000 people are affected every 20 years. That's 1,000 people per year, on average. And, let's assume that these types of programs have a 100% chance of avoiding such attacks.

Is securing the safety of 0.0003% of our population (roughly the same number of people struck by lightning per year) worth the betrayal of privacy we're seeing?

To me, it's not even a close call - no way.

[Medius]

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Is it a conspiracy at all? If it is, it's been hiding in plain sight for a while.

There is a war on drugs. There is a Patriot act because of so called counter terror measures, also called measures to keep us free.

It's more of an exercise to get us to accept a beating and call it a warm embrace.

What's that I see in your portfolio Winston?

[Medius]

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Alien lizard satanists with ray guns and black helicopters.

[Indy]

I didn't mean to make this a forum on Alex Jones.

What I DO mean to point out is that the "War on Terror," like the equally bizarrely-named "War on Drugs," seems to be nothing more than a rationale for our gov't to act completely irrationally.

Conspiracy theorists have been saying for years that governments use fear to get citizens to surrender their freedoms. Does anybody even doubt that is happening anymore? It's just entirely sad that it's happening here--we're supposed to be the beacon of freedom, not the example of people who were born with it but pissed it away.

The more life goes on the more those "theories" don't seem so far-fetched.

Like the MIC. Jesus we can't even keep our schools open in Chicago but this country will dump over a trillion dollars into two "wars" in Iraq and Afghanistan. Ask yourself: what net benefit did either of those wars bring to America? Especially Iraq.

If you say they made us "safer" you get the hose. Now put the lotion in the basket...