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The gov't is 17 trillion in debt. All they do is shift around wealth. Your wealth and my wealth, they create nothing themselves.

It's as if I don't give a shit because it was stupid to begin with.

A tax is revenue for the gov't. That's what it is. Income taxes are for roads and bridges, sales taxes are for schools and such. That's a given. Obamacare TAX is to pay for Obamacare (presumably). So how is this so complicated? It was ruled a TAX by the supreme court which some liberals here seem to worship. Yet when its pointed out that if it's a tax, it wasn't passed legally through the normal channel of bills that contain taxes, suddenly it's not a tax or not THAT KIND of tax.

Make up your minds.

it's as if you don't understand that words have both dictionary definitions and legal definitions that pertain to the government and laws.

Well, we can argue this until the end of time. But considering your stance on the Zimmerman case and how wrong you were there, you might not want to talk about Legal definitions!

go find that post i made defining legal terms wrong. i'll wait, no hurry.

and no, we can't argue about this until the end of time. there's nothing to argue about. five of the most powerful and learned legal scholars in the country say the insurance salesman from louisiana is wrong.

instead, YOU can argue into a void until the end of time. there is no 'we' in this.

Last time.. ACA is not a bill to generate revenue, AND there are precedents anyway of other cases that ruled that certain bills/taxes ARE exempt from the originator rule of the HoR because they were NOT bills to generate revenue.

I'm not a lawyer so I have no idea where to look but I'll bet there were probably already challenges to Obamacare based on this premise that have already been shot down in a lower courts. Being how rabid the GOP and their foaming at the mouth lemmings are to shutting down ACA I can't imagine there hasn't been court cases already. They probably filed cases the day after the USSC ruling.

Here we are in 2013 and after 41 times and one threatened government default (which blew up in your faces) your new idea is to... Try and repeal Obamacare yet AGAIN. If that doesn't define the complete and utter insanity of the tea party I don't know what does.

You literally have no plan for governing. Its nihilism at this point mixed with Jesus camp.

Well, the lawsuit has been filed. Let's see how far it gets.