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i do think we need to honor history. and yes, some of our americans in the past were traitors, but that does not mean we should erase their memory. what we should so it put it in places that make sense

i think that all statues honoring anyone that was in rebellion to the united states at any time be in certain federally approved places, namely, places of historical significance such as battlefields and whatever few other exceptions the congress sees fit, all of which must be approved by the national park service. the NPS should be directed to deal with statues honoring the generic solider/war dead of a state as sacrosanct, statues honoring commanding officers and general should take historical significance into account, including their actions after the war, statues honoring the political leaders of rebels should be dealt with prejudice, and all statues and monuments to jefferson davis should be removed from public lands regardless of historical significance, with the single exception of his hollywood cemetery gravesite. all other statues dealing with any rebels must be removed and moved to private land, and, if they are on private land, not be visible from any public street. the law will not grandfather anything in.

further, reinstate the lifelong ban for Jefferson Davis from serving in public office. yes, i know, it was prerrty f**k dumb that it was posthumously removed by president Jimmy Carter with a bill spearheaded by Trent Lott in 1978. but seriously.
the man was a traitor.

furthermore no state my celebrate with a public holiday any person who has rebelled against the united states. i'm looking at you, most of the south. this includes crap like what bill clinton did in arkansas, making MLK day also RELee day

finally i don't like that the second largest obelisk in the world is a monument to davis. unsure if it should be removed (it's in a kentuky state park, his birthplace) or rededicated to something else.

tear them down and put them in a museum

Take pictures of them. Put those in a museum. An actual statue is always going to be too dignified.

Of course...the US being the result of a bunch of traitorous rebels who weren't successfully put down, the distinctions get a bit irritating. Not that I don't enjoy seeing the stars and bars flying right next to the nazi flag. Pleasing symmetry.

there is absolutely nothing wrong with statues for the losing side if they are in appropriate places like battlefields, cemeteries, and museums

i agree, get them out of city streets, but i don't think they are so offensive that they should be destroyed

Melt them down and send them to China or place them in cemeteries where their ideas deserve to lay in death.

Remove all reminders, then we can repeat.

The statues should be preserved, obviously. If they need to be put into the appropriate context - i.e. a memorial for victims of the Civil War - that is fine. But there is no sense destroying them.