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[Winchester]

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Registration won't prevent mass shootings. Neither will banning bump stocks.

Nothing being suggested here is going to address mass shootings or gun violence. This is a fact. You can implement whatever reasonable restrictions you want, tomorrow, and you will still have regular mass shootings all over America. The gun murder rate will also be unaffected. The article above is correct in that regards.

The reason for this is gun culture, not guns. There are plenty of Western nations with ready access to firearms, of all types. None of them experience mass shootings or murder anywhere close to what the US does, whether you are talking about per capita or just in absolute numbers.

The fundamental, unique difference is that America believes people have the right to a firearm, and have built a culture around it. The idea of concealed carry being permissible and actually a positive impact on society exists solely in America. The idea that you can protect yourself from overbearing government by owning a firearm exists solely in America (I'm speaking in terms of Western nations here - there are plenty of third-world shitholes where this belief is both reasonable and widespread). The idea that firearms are just "another tool" exists solely in America. The idea that having a firearm on your person or in your home makes you safer exists solely in America. All of these beliefs sit at the core of gun culture, which is the single greatest roadblock to sensible gun regulation. Make no mistake, this is your fault. No, not the massacres and murders themselves, but the inability of the American government to arrive at a compromise.

This is why it is important that Americans, and leftists, reject any further calls for compromise. Because that isn't what is really being called for. What you are actually calling for is the maintenance of the status quo, and no real action on gun violence whatsoever. Your ilk must be utterly broken and subdued, and only then can we talk about "compromise."

[John Galt]

from my cold dead hands you'll take my M1. the M1, a semiautomatic weapon that saved europe, fires at about 40/minute, if you don't jam your thumb when loading the 8 round clip into it

background checks do indeed lower the murder and suicide rate by the way https://everytown.org/press/latest-gun- ... d-by-guns/

we can argue about more later, but why not make compromise today, and see where that gets us, and what still needs to change?

there's a couple "gun cultures" i think. there's the white guys with arsenals "gun culture" that you are railing about but there's the gangbangers with "gun culture" too. and they are the ones killing more people; it's not called chiraq for nothing. at the heart of it is the war on drugs, which itself feeds both gun cultures. the gangbangers get more guns for protection, which causes the cops to become militarized, which causes the "gun culture" you rail about it get hardons for cool weapons/think they need them for protection against a militarized police force and excessive gang violence that happens 500 miles away from where they live

[spacemonkey]

Still trying to blame the gun for the stupidity of certain people. May as well blame the sun for your sunburn.

[The Comrade]

if stupid caused gun violence you'd be a mass murderer.

QED

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[John Galt]

[Kane]

I'm excited to see who comes out challenging the NRA and the establishment GOP members that vote for this. This too will prove to be a situation where they lose control of the electorate.

I don't think this is going to work.

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