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Political Crossfire Forums • oprah • Page 14 • General Discussion
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Re: oprah

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:34 am
by Saz
Now list those numbers for immigrants from El Salvador. The issue isn't so much the countries in particular, the issue is that some are not sending us their best and brightest, so to speak. From Nigeria, or India, America is actually getting the best and brightest. It's also no coincidence that no one from Nigeria or India has any hope of getting to the US without going through the proper immigration system, so everyone that comes is highly educated, wealthy, or both. Even when they come in as family members or relatives, these are family members of the well educated or wealthy, and often are in a similar position. Now compare this to El Salvador where joe public manages to make it into the USA. Countries like Nigeria LOSE visa places if those who come to the US overstay their visa...but we just let in tens of millions of unskilled illegal and Mexico/El Salvador and the lot seem to face no visa penalties for that. Immigrants from just about everywhere outperform when they get in the US with the exception of a few countries that happen to be geographically close to the US. This is not a coincidence. Unfortunately when you look at the scale you have small amounts of immigration from places like Africa where immigrants do very well, and tons from countries like El Salvador who do not perform anywhere near.

Re: oprah

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:50 am
by exploited
In June or July of last year, Trump said "all of them have AIDS" when referring to Haitians, and also said that Nigerians would "never go back to their huts" if they saw the US.

These statements are exponentially worse than what was said lately. And yet, without looking up a definitive list of Donald Trump's racists sayings, I had completely forgotten about them.

This is what is going to happen here. In three months, I will have forgotten about this, and will instead be focusing on whatever latest shitty thing that Trump has said. And that is true for the vast bulk of Americans, most of whom, if they felt comfortable enough, would actually agree with the sentiment expressed by Trump - even while understanding it to be a form of racism!

Democrats and Progressives are completely mired in their own worldview. They think this is the kind of thing that will finally push his Presidency over the edge. It is an extreme level of delusion. The end result is that, after one year, they are not any closer to having Trump removed from office.

Donald Trump is shocking, offensive, racist, yes. He was voted into office with everyone fully aware of this. Many of the things he said on the campaign trail were objectively worse than what he has said here. Note that this does not matter to his supporters, and it doesn't matter to most GOP members, and it doesn't even matter to a significant chunk of Democrats (around 25% according to Hurfs numbers).

Go ahead and complain about it. Talk to your friends about it. This is your right, and I don't blame you. But understand that your shock and offense mean precisely jack shit. The bulk of your nation has been shocked and offended since he took office. Unfortunately, this is not grounds for dismissal, and people are starting to tune out, because there is never any long-term focus on any particular thing. It is just a constant barrage of shit.

Meanwhile, as we've been discussing this and his weight and his mental health and his racism and his sexual assaults and his affairs and how mean he is, 60% of career diplomats have resigned under Trump. 60%. These people have relationships and knowledge that take decades to cultivate. Perhaps it would be best to focus on stuff like this? It is a thought anyways.

Re: oprah

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:27 am
by John Galt

Re: oprah

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:22 pm
by spacemonkey
The DACA dilemma was caused by kicking the can for decades on immigration, so here we are. Finally someone comes along ready to pick that can up and he is labeled as unfit, racist and the pharaoh of phobia's. Give me a freakin break, lol. You libtards deserve the shithole your minds live in.

Re: oprah

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:04 pm
by The Comrade

Re: oprah

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:08 pm
by JDHURF

Re: oprah

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:24 pm
by John Galt

Re: oprah

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:38 pm
by JDHURF
Granted, you did specifically mention that they were refugees. It's the context that's made your Somali comments peculiar. When you say that "he's likely thinking of Somalia" when he was clearly talking about several states if not the whole continent...peculiar isolated, emphasized focus.

Re: oprah

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:39 pm
by Saz

Re: oprah

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:42 pm
by Saz