China's impact on US corporations

[exploited]

*America swaggers into the WTO, IMF, World Bank and every regional FTA*

"Hey business partners. Sorry that the Chinese government is so offensive to the principles of human dignity, free markets or even basic self-respect, we don't have such views here. Now here's the deal: if we don't take action against them, we're pulling out of this whole thing, and we'll do it ourse-----"

*gunshot*

*Mandarin scream, muffled speaking in MBA*

[exploited]

I understand that America has undergone quite a bit of trauma, and is having a collective identity crisis.

The thing is that you guys guaranteed stability in Europe and North America for (minimum) 70 years.

I appreciate that, but we need you guys to step up again.

As a Canadian, I'll actually pitch in as much or more effort as any American, unlike anyone from Europe, who can't even be bothered to exercise basic solidarity with their neighbours.

We don't really have the time or space to wait any longer on the China file. They are already out of control, have been for 20 years, and need to be reigned in, in a very serious way.

Please, for the love of God, get over your current insecurities and start leading us again. If you fail, Canada will try and fail to step up. Nobody else will even try. It's on you. We need the fight against the Sino-Russian hegemon to continue, and be accelerated.

[Saz]

[Saz]

Can't wait to explain to my boss why I don't feel comfortable going to Beijing for "due diligence"

[John Galt]

[Kane]

Time to get Ozymandias and Manhattan together and for the team to kill Rorschach.

[JockandBallTorture]

[JockandBallTorture]

[exploited]

I agree that sanctions don't result in regime changes, at least in the way they are typically thought about. I highly doubt the Communist Party would be replaced as a result of sanctions, whether they are imposed internationally or just by the US. Indeed, there is considerable evidence that sanctions actually strengthened the South African apartheid regime.

I personally doubt that free markets result in regime change anymore than sanctions. I can't think of any examples of that working, off the top of my head.

Ultimately, though, I don't know if regime change is even the goal here. Mere punishment and introducing difficulties is enough. As is rebuilding the strength of our international order by focusing on an appropriate external enemy. And, most of all, it will provide a rational framework for nations to approach China. Yes, we can consider trading with them, but we will need some concessions in return. Real guarantees, backed by inspections and oversight, of Hong Kong autonomy, even in the absence of recognition of their independence, would be a benefit. Reduction in SOE would be another tangible goal that could be pursued. The release of the Muslims in concentration camps would be another. Ending their aggressive regional military expansion is another. The important thing is that we need to make them realize that the leeway we gave them during their development is OVER. If they want to sit at the big boy table, they will be held to big boy standards.

[Saz]

Regime change is not the goal. It's not a realistic possibility under any circumstances. Even a war would not topple the CCP.

The goal is precisely to draw a line in the sand and make everyone pick a side. You stay on your, we will stay on ours. We simply cannot allow them to participate in any significant way in our economy.