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Political Crossfire Forums • Democratic Debate on CNN • Page 12 • Elections
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Re: Democratic Debate on CNN

PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:05 pm
by Philly
Also Dylan, Sanders position on guns is don't be shrill and propose things that that aren't feasible and lack the support of the public just to score points with a specific audience. Its a political misstep for him but it's the right approach at the end of the day.

Re: Democratic Debate on CNN

PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:06 pm
by Dylan
Yes I can. She basically has the Dem nomination on lock, she's a strong and experienced candidate and debater and her current poor ratings belie much stronger historical ratings. Once the email "scandal" has run its course she'll likely be trending upward again.

And, in any event, her favorability:unfavorability ratio is better than Bush's, better than Trump's, and she is currently beating Rubio head to head. Additionally, Rubio is a weak and inexperienced campaigner and has a tendency to fold in debates. Hillary would mop the floor with him.

She's a strong candidate. Obviously. And still the most likely next POTUS.

Re: Democratic Debate on CNN

PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:07 pm
by Dylan

Re: Democratic Debate on CNN

PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:09 pm
by Philly

Re: Democratic Debate on CNN

PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:11 pm
by Dylan
So Clinton is likely to win but not a strong candidate? Got it. :ymdaydream:

Re: Democratic Debate on CNN

PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:12 pm
by Philly
Do you get it?

I'm not going to start counting anyone's delegates yet since we have a few more months before the caucuses and primaries start. But if the Iowa caucus was tonight, Clinton would have a sloppier path to the nomination than notoriously weak candidate John Kerry did in 2004. This, despite the fact that the entire democratic establishment decided to coronate her over a year ago and her only competition is a geriatric socialist curmudgeon.

Re: Democratic Debate on CNN

PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:17 pm
by Dylan
Dylan: I meant strong as in qualified. She's still a strong candidate for POTUS as well though. Especially if the GOP continues walking the plank with Trump.

Philly: She's not a strong candidate at all but yeah she would win against Trump. Honestly which democrat in the field wouldn't? Even the z listers like O'Malley would.

Do you get it? If she's likely to win and we both except that, how can you disagree with me when I say she's a strong candidate for POTUS?

You okay man?

Re: Democratic Debate on CNN

PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:19 pm
by Medius

Re: Democratic Debate on CNN

PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:26 pm
by Philly

Re: Democratic Debate on CNN

PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:29 pm
by Dylan
The human compassion point is beyond unfair. She's spent an enormous part of her life working on issues like children's health, access to medicine, civil rights, and access to the justice system for the poor. Yeah, she's a DC insider but that doesn't make you a bad person. It just makes you a politician. A good politician, in her case.

I don't know what there would be to "fear". Expanded healthcare? Higher taxes? Gun control? You make it sound like she's some kind of tyrant and I've seen no evidence suggesting as much.