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Re: Why is this so bad?

Postby Mr.Bill » Sat Jan 11, 2014 5:32 am

I'd bet the same people in Texas who scream daily that they want smaller government and they want the government out of their life's and they daily call Obama a dictator and cheering this decision BY the government in Texas to completely disregard a legal document and the wishes of the mother and father..
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Re: Why is this so bad?

Postby Homer » Sat Jan 11, 2014 6:05 am

Quite a few US states have laws which say a brain dead woman who's pregnant must be kept 'alive' until the child can be delivered regardless of what the woman or family want.
I don't know if this state has this law, but at the very least it's a grey legal and moral area.
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Re: Why is this so bad?

Postby Mr.Bill » Sat Jan 11, 2014 7:07 am

12 States....

Alabama, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Michigan, Missouri, South Carolina, Texas, Utah, Washington, and Wisconsin automatically invalidate a woman’s advance directive if she is pregnant...

A couple of surprises there, but only a couple..
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Re: Why is this so bad?

Postby The Dharma Bum » Sat Jan 11, 2014 7:19 am

Why don't they deliver the baby and see if it lives?

Also "potential person" is not a legal or scientific term or concept. It's a colloquialism and can therefore be dismissed without further comment.

The concept of "personhood" is completely subjective, and the way it is being used currently in our society is a relic of the 4th century. (it's how they explained the components of holy trinity).
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Re: Why is this so bad?

Postby Darkhorse » Sat Jan 11, 2014 7:26 am

At 14 weeks it would die for sure.
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Re: Why is this so bad?

Postby The Dharma Bum » Sat Jan 11, 2014 7:34 am

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Re: Why is this so bad?

Postby The Dharma Bum » Sat Jan 11, 2014 7:37 am

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Re: Why is this so bad?

Postby Spider » Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:50 am

Deliver? At 14 weeks its the size of a tangerine. Thats an abortion, not a delivery. Of course it isn't viable.

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Re: Why is this so bad?

Postby The Dharma Bum » Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:59 am

As I clearly said it probably wouldn't be viable but I think they are obliged to try if there is a chance at all. A call for a doctor to make, not some guy on the internet that googles for a picture of the most undeveloped 14 week fetus he can find to score a cheap point.
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Re: Why is this so bad?

Postby exploited » Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:08 am

A 14 week old fetus has almost zero chance of surviving. If it miraculously did it would be severely retarded.

The decision to try should rest with the father. There are very few doctors who would engage in such butchery though. The youngest surviving premature births are at 25 weeks. The very youngest is 21 weeks and that child suffered severe respiratory and digestive problems and had multiple brain hemmorages.
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