i didn't say it was a huge booming industry, i said people still eat it. which they do.
there is a market for it. period.
UN orders Japan to halt whale hunts
Re: UN orders Japan to halt whale hunts
by The Comrade » Mon Mar 31, 2014 12:48 pm
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Re: UN orders Japan to halt whale hunts
by The Comrade » Mon Mar 31, 2014 12:57 pm
whatever. i'm going to seaworld just to spite you guys.
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Re: UN orders Japan to halt whale hunts
by Professor » Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:09 pm
Fact (from nmfs.noaa.gov):
In 2011/2012 Japan killed some 445 whales in total. This figure includes:
297 minke whales
50 Bryde's whales
2 fin whales
95 sei whales
1 sperm whale
Minke whales - not at risk.
Bryde's whales - data deficient, indicating that there is not enough information to determine extinction probabilities. In previous populations, when defined as "data deficient", the deficiency was caused by insufficient number of whales to observe, leading to a future categorization of "endangered".
Fin whales - endangered
Sei whales - endangered.
Sperm whales - endangered.
So, 34% of the whales that Japan kills are either endangered or at risk of being endangered. Who the hell came up with 5%?
In 2011/2012 Japan killed some 445 whales in total. This figure includes:
297 minke whales
50 Bryde's whales
2 fin whales
95 sei whales
1 sperm whale
Minke whales - not at risk.
Bryde's whales - data deficient, indicating that there is not enough information to determine extinction probabilities. In previous populations, when defined as "data deficient", the deficiency was caused by insufficient number of whales to observe, leading to a future categorization of "endangered".
Fin whales - endangered
Sei whales - endangered.
Sperm whales - endangered.
So, 34% of the whales that Japan kills are either endangered or at risk of being endangered. Who the hell came up with 5%?
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Re: UN orders Japan to halt whale hunts
by j g » Mon Mar 31, 2014 3:02 pm
[quote="uebermann"][quote="John Galt"]they barely take anything. it's international waters they should be able to whale responsibly. i dont know why people get so upset about whales. we need dead whales for our space program, for example
agreeing with comrade, overfishing is a far more dangerous practice[/quote]
No one is saying overfishing isn't a problem. One thing at a time and this is unrelated to overfishing of fish.
They are hunting in a whale preservation area firstly. Secondly, they aren't supposed to be hunting for meat at all but thats what they are doing.
Your whole Hindu analogy has no merit whatsoever because the US isn't going into a international cow reserve and hunting cows and killing them under the premise of doing it for research.[/quote]
i don't know what that is. the ocean entire is on a moratorium.
japan should just leave. they submit to this crap voluntarily, they should leave the whaling commission and kick up whaling activities to the levels of 200 years ago
agreeing with comrade, overfishing is a far more dangerous practice[/quote]
No one is saying overfishing isn't a problem. One thing at a time and this is unrelated to overfishing of fish.
They are hunting in a whale preservation area firstly. Secondly, they aren't supposed to be hunting for meat at all but thats what they are doing.
Your whole Hindu analogy has no merit whatsoever because the US isn't going into a international cow reserve and hunting cows and killing them under the premise of doing it for research.[/quote]
i don't know what that is. the ocean entire is on a moratorium.
japan should just leave. they submit to this crap voluntarily, they should leave the whaling commission and kick up whaling activities to the levels of 200 years ago
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