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yeah it was really the reformation and the breaking up of the catholic church that caused it, and in the end it had to do with royal power struggles. like the thirty years war, as the HRE fragmented it pulled in others supposedly about religion but it was really a chance for a major player to f**k another major. same deal with making the small folk reject (or adhere to) catholicism at the time

Again, what characteristic or set of characteristics, particular to Christianity, resulted in the modern world? Saying "Christians wanted to propagate their religion, therefore taught reading, therefore modern world" is insanely simplistic. Not only are you assigning the motivations of certain big actors to the millions of people beneath them, but you are ignoring that the modern world wasn't created because people could recite Exodus.

I once got a hair cut. Shortly after leaving, I got into a car accident. Therefore my hair cut caused the car accident.

i understand the statement it's not testable because we don't have a lab running parrallel universes for shits and giggles and science, same as any history is, however, if you apply what happened elsewhere in the globe and the factors involved there i think it becomes plain that christendom was in fact a huge factor for why europe became the masters of the world and how western society became what it is today.

they behead people all the time in saudi arabia still. women are forced to wear clothes to keep them 'decent'. you think such principles where they'll behead you for renouncing religion would allow for true scientific inquiry? the enlightenment? it still hasn't even happened there! they don't do that in christian nations, or nations with predominate christian people's -- and they haven't. christians excommunicated you -- shunned you -- from their community. no christian nation has or had a law against apostasy that resulted in the death penalty, even during the inquisition, but 11 islamic countries currently do.